





A second look at the Real Estate industry in Alberta.
Campbell said he expects Edmonton home prices generally to rise nine per cent in 2008 and 12 per cent in 2009. Homes that benefit from transportation improvements will outperform the market by an additional 10 to 20 per cent, he said. "When people look for a property to purchase, be it their primary residence or an investment property, they take into consideration affordability, commute times and commute costs," Campbell said.November 14, 2007
“Nobody rings a bell when prices hit the bottom,” said Charlie Ponde, president of the REALTORS® Association of Edmonton. “The bottom is evident only after several months of rising prices. One month does not make a trend but the market is certainly welcoming to home buyers.” He pointed to the lowest interest rates in years, the large selection of homes available and recently announced economic stimulus packages as reasons for the increasing market activity. The amount of RRSP savings that can be applied to a first-time home purchase was increased from $20,000 to $25,000 and a tax rebate for home renovation expenses were announced in the recent federal budget. Both measures will encourage home buyers.I actually don't have any problem with the new president. I just wanted to throw in my two cents.
Realtors say they wouldn't be surprised if average prices fall by six or seven per cent from their July peak, before levelling off in early 2008. If so, that would take the average single-detached home price down to $388,000.This was a very loaded statement. "Roughly a dozen" was actually nine. The term "upgraders"was applied to a brand new sites, expansions or converting existing plants. The use of "are slated" actually meant some were under construction, some were approved to be build and some had filed applications. So if you were shopping for a house at the time and thought this meant 12 new upgraders in the Edmonton area you were wrong.
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Roughly a dozen upgraders are slated for the Edmonton region. Thousands of new jobs will be created.
Even with huge slowdowns, at least half those projects will happen. The bitumen upgraders in Strathcona and Sturgeon counties are just starting. Nine proposed upgraders are listed on that website.The list of upgraders can be found here in the Alberta Industrial Heartland section. There has been some recent developments regarding these project and I have done my best to consolidate them in a list.
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House prices will go nowhere but up.
So just where is E-town's economy going? Toward a period of slower growth, admits Tsounis, at an estimated 2.5 per cent this year, 2.8 per cent next year, and an average of 3.3 per cent between 2009 and 2011.I am not sure when this forecast was made. Was it before the market crash or after? I could only find a forecast from May 2007 on the city of Edmonton website here. There was a lot of optimistic economic forecasts including GDP.That's down from a red-hot five per cent annually between 2003 and 2007. But it's growth nonetheless, at a time when the U.S. economy will shrink, and Canada will struggle to stay above water.
What did the author write just over 2 months ago? In the Aug 12th article Our housing market's correction is not a calamity:Feeling more cheerful yet? Good. There's more.
Let's start with oil prices. They fell to the $67-US-a-barrel range Wednesday, about $80 or 54 per cent below the July peak of $147. The worry warts will tell you we're heading for an '80s-style crash, but that's absurd.
Just as oil markets overshot on the upside, they're now overshooting on the downside. China and India haven't gone away. Once OPEC's proposed cuts take hold, the credit crunch eases -- as it's already showing signs of doing -- and recovery begins, demand will pick up. So will oil prices.
See previous postUnless energy prices fall off a cliff, Alberta's economy should remain strong. And that should lead to a stronger housing market in 2009.
So what's a cliff? In my view, oil prices would have to skid to $75 US per barrel or lower for a sustained period -- rendering some oilsands projects uneconomic -- and natural gas prices would have to sink below $7 per million British thermal units (MMBtu), making drilling too costly to justify.
Despite the recent hiccup in commodity prices, I don't think that's in the cards. Now that the speculators are on the run, I'd expect oil prices to find a bottom in the $100-per-barrel range; natural gas should find support in the $8 range.
"The average price of single family homes was down by 1.9% since August. Condos on the other hand were up 11.7%.... When you factor in all types of residential property the average price was down 1.3%"Probably a simple mistake but it is rich that at the beginning of the ad the questioner said "Anybody can read statistics off a page and give you numbers". The average price of condos in Edmonton increased by 0.5%.
"It has a lot to do with the mix of homes on the market. The average factors everything from entry level homes to estate homes. Right now there are more entry level, lower priced homes on the market, so that brings the overall average price down despite the strong sales we are seeing."A different perspective comes from the Edmonton Real Estate Blog. Keep in mind that this is also referring to the first half of October as well.
As you can see from the chart below, this is not just a case of fewer high end listings selling, as the average price per square foot has dropped.Sales price/square foot chart.
Investing in real estate in Calgary, he said, is a safer investment than putting money into the stock market.
The main index of the Toronto Stock Exchange fell more than 600 points yesterday in yet another day of turbulent market swings.
"People should take note," he said.
Isn't it precious that when home prices fall they are "on sale" or represent oppurtunity but when stocks fall they become a dangerous investment?
“Now is not the time to wait until the sale is over and then decide to buy; after you read a headline, the best time to buy has passed,” cautioned, CREB® President, Ed Jensen.
Perras forecasted sales volume for 2008 would reach "reasonably strong" volumes similar to 2005, before the market spiked in 2006.
The total number of residential sales in 2008 will probably drop slightly from 2007 levels. Perras expects that 19,100 residential properties will sell through the MLS® in 2008. There were 20,544 sales in 2007.
2005 | 2008 | Difference | |
JANUARY | 886 | 1227 | 341 |
FEBRUARY | 1257 | 1287 | 30 |
MARCH | 1680 | 1557 | -123 |
APRIL | 1802 | 1823 | 21 |
MAY | 2098 | 1821 | -277 |
JUNE | 2134 | 1852 | -282 |
JULY | 1610 | 1784 | 174 |
AUGUST | 1934 | 1541 | -393 |
SEPTEMBER | 1547 | 1729 | 182 |
OCTOBER | 1333 | ||
NOVEMBER | 1445 | ||
DECEMBER | 908 | ||
Total (Jan – Sep) | 14948 | 14621 | -327 |
Perras anticipates that prices for all types of residential property will increase gradually through 2008 and finish the year about 4% higher than the current price. If the forecast is accurate then single family detached homes will sell for $397,303 next year and condos will be priced at $263,400.
01/12/06 | Peak Price | 01/12/07 | Forecast Dec 2008 | Sept 2008 | |
SFD | 341933 | 426028 | 382022 | 397303 | 362097 |
Condo | 227428 | 271908 | 253270 | 263401 | 252234 |
Duplex/Rowhouse | 295178 | 367964 | 306967 | 319246 | 315690 |
All Residential | 294155 | 354718 | 329705 | 342893 | 324906 |
The current inventory of residential properties is now 7,094 homes. The inventory will decrease through the year but the wide choice of properties will have a dampening effect on prices offsetting increased demand from in-migration and economic growth. Condominiums are expected to become a stronger option (especially for first time buyers) because of the lower price point.
With downturn ebbing, buyers flood market that's 'not going to get any better'The term ' buyers flood market' was not brought up by the industry insiders quoted in the article but created by the Edmonton Journal, demonstrating their own bias.
Bill Mah, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Thursday, September 04
These are the Edmonton sales numbers for August for the last several years. 'Ridiculously busy' is a great exaggeration at best. I have my own bias here so I will just present the numbers and the sales chart again (from Edmonton Real Estate Blog).Marc Perras, president of the Realtors Association of Edmonton, said the figures confirm what he's experienced in his own real estate office.
"I've been run off my feet," Perras said. "July was ridiculously busy and August has been ridiculously busy, and when it shows in the numbers, it's not just me."
August Sales | |
2003 | 1438 |
2004 | 1534 |
2005 | 1934 |
2006 | 2079 |
2007 | 1299 |
2008 | 1541 |
There were 9,612 residential properties in the inventory on Aug. 31, compared with 10,501 at the beginning of the month.
"The stats show buyers are confident with the Edmonton economy. It's a large selection to pick from right now, and I think they don't foresee a drastic dropping of prices, so they want to get into the marketplace and buy.
It is true that part of the inventory reduction is due to some recovery in the sales/listing ratio which is at 51%. What is not mentioned are listing that are removed or expired but did not sell. From the weekly update on the Edmonton Real Estate blog there were 692 delists last week alone. Another 'expert' chimes in:
"For buyers, it's not going to get any better than it is right now because of the supply, which is going to start to dwindle away," Goatcher said.Sales will start to dwindle as well going into winter. Actually they already have, but you wouldn't have guessed it from this article. Honestly, I do not know what will happen in 2009 but I still get aggravated at the certainty which these statements are made.
“Near record January sales indicate that housing sales will remain strong in the Edmonton area as buyers and sellers adjust to the new pricing levels,” said Marc Perras, president of the REALTORS® Association of Edmonton.
Feb 5, 2008 (21% drop over 2007)
“We predicted that sales would be on par with the last ‘normal’ year that we had in 2005. So far the market is behaving as we anticipated.”
March 4, 2008 (32% drop over 2007)
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"The total number of residential sales in 2008 will probably drop slightly from 2007 levels. Perras expects that 19,100 residential properties will sell through the MLS® in 2008. There were 20,544 sales in 2007."
Jan 9, 2008
With the high inventory, demand was strong with residential sales near traditional volumes.
April 3, 2008 (34% sales drop over 2007)
April sales of all types of residential property through the Multiple Listing Service® were lower than the two previous years at 1,823 units but higher than the more typical years of 2004 and 2005.Sales were up 1% in April when compared to 2004/2005. See previous post.
May 5, 2008 (25% sales drop over 2007)
May sales exceeded same month sales in 2003 and 2004 but were below May sales for 2005-2007 when the market was super-heated.
June 3, 2008 (36% sales drop over 2007)
“Housing prices typically rise slightly through the fall,” said Perras. “We expect that the strong sales this quarter will support rising prices as we approach year-end.This reminded me of a previous statement which I debunked in this post.
"I think it's a great time to buy now. If we're going to see any softening in prices, it's going to be in the second quarter, which is right now. This kind of inventory is going to thin out as we get into the fall.".....
EDMONTON - Is the city's housing market going into the tank, as it did in the 1980s? Or is it already showing signs of emerging from its year-long funk?
My guess? With the average price of a single-family detached home in Edmonton down to $379,224 in July -- nearly $38,000 or 9.1 per cent below the July 2007 peak of $417,150 -- the recent downturn is largely history.
Sales volumes are picking up, the bloated inventory of unsold homes is shrinking, new housing starts are down by more than 70 per cent, and current prices better reflect what buyers are willing to pay to live in what has become one of Canada's most consistently prosperous cities.
...But let's get a grip. Alberta remains an island of prosperity in an otherwise stormy sea. We've had a correction, not a U.S.-style housing market meltdown. And what a run we've had.I like how "we've had a correction" refers to the it in the past tense as if we have already past it.
What this article fails to acknowledge is why prices have fallen at all. Decreasing prices without a change in these economic factors demonstrate that something else responsible for the initial run-up. No details were given about what this "something else" would have been because that would mean discussing looser lending standards and speculation; Basically the same things we share, at least to some degree, with the States.Since January 2002, the average price of a single-detached home in Edmonton has jumped by more than $216,000, or 133 per cent. And that's after taking into account the price declines of the past 12 months. Local condo prices have risen even faster, soaring 157 per cent since early 2002.
Those numbers reflect a sea change in the global economy, and a rise in commodity prices that remains intact, despite the recent correction.
Still, it's easy to see why some naysayers expect the housing market to continue to weaken. Consider this gloomy headline, which recently appeared atop the front page of one national newspaper: "Housing slump stalks Western Canada."The Merrill report is here. It says that those cities are overvalued by more than 10%, with Edmonton overvalued by 25%.The accompanying story, based on a report from two Toronto-based economists at Merrill Lynch, said house prices in the major cities of Saskatchewan, Alberta and B.C. are overvalued by 10 per cent, and a "sustained downturn" may be at hand.
So when referencing the Merrill report for Edmonton it uses 10% instead of 25% overvalued. Now that prices have dropped 9% it's "all corrected, time for dessert". Well even then the Merrill report attempts to account for the correction which it had modeled Edmonton at 34% overvalued in 2007 which has decreased to 25% in 2008 with price drops included. Note to Edmonton Journal - READ THE REPORT!Well, here's the thing. That would have been useful advice a year ago. Not so today. As noted, Alberta's real estate markets have already corrected.
While the average price of a single-detached home in Edmonton fell 9.1per cent through July, on a year-over-year basis, comparable homes in Calgary fell nearly 10 per cent, to $456,380.
First, consider overall housing prices in Calgary and Edmonton. In both cities, prices in June are off only slightly from the peak record highs reached last July. They're down 3.6 per cent in Calgary, and 3.8 per cent in Edmonton -- hardly a sign of collapsing prices. In fact, for a full year now, prices in the resale market have been remarkably stable.
Edmonton Regional Prices for June 2008 (detached) | ||||
2008 | 2007 | |||
NORTHWEST | AVERAGE | 338135 | 346172 | -2.38% |
NORTHWEST | MEDIAN | 318000 | 348000 | -9.43% |
NORTH | AVERAGE | 356462 | 405401 | -13.73% |
NORTH | MEDIAN | 346250 | 385000 | -11.19% |
NORTHEAST | AVERAGE | 297946 | 355189 | -19.21% |
NORTHEAST | MEDIAN | 295450 | 343000 | -16.09% |
CENTRAL | AVERAGE | 290966 | 278306 | 4.35% |
CENTRAL | MEDIAN | 252500 | 270000 | -6.93% |
WEST | AVERAGE | 428566 | 511958 | -19.46% |
WEST | MEDIAN | 402500 | 430000 | -6.83% |
SOUTHWEST | AVERAGE | 457560 | 566179 | -23.74% |
SOUTHWEST | MEDIAN | 419600 | 515000 | -22.74% |
SOUTHEAST | AVERAGE | 356244 | 431395 | -21.10% |
SOUTHEAST | MEDIAN | 339000 | 399950 | -17.98% |
ST. ALBERT | AVERAGE | 449903 | 514678 | -14.40% |
ST. ALBERT | MEDIAN | 424000 | 478700 | -12.90% |
SHERWOOD PARK | AVERAGE | 443069 | 480363 | -8.42% |
SHERWOOD PARK | MEDIAN | 423500 | 451000 | -6.49% |
LEDUC | AVERAGE | 347915 | 401140 | -15.30% |
LEDUC | MEDIAN | 330000 | 373450 | -13.17% |
SPRUCE GROVE | AVERAGE | 377174 | 418583 | -10.98% |
SPRUCE GROVE | MEDIAN | 361324 | 402500 | -11.40% |
STONY PLAIN | AVERAGE | 390452 | 401990 | -2.96% |
STONY PLAIN | MEDIAN | 364500 | 395000 | -8.37% |
MORINVILLE | AVERAGE | 354745 | 345309 | 2.66% |
MORINVILLE | MEDIAN | 353000 | 335000 | 5.10% |
FORT SASKATCHEWAN | AVERAGE | 371281 | 381228 | -2.68% |
FORT SASKATCHEWAN | MEDIAN | 355000 | 370000 | -4.23% |
May sales exceeded same month sales in 2003 and 2004 but were below May sales for 2005-2007 when the market was super-heated.WRONG. May sales were in fact below those of 2004. There were 1961 residential sales during May 2004 compared to 1821 May 2008. From archived stats.
“Rising prices are forcing buyers to explore their housing options. People are being priced into the condo market,” said Pratt. “May figures demonstrate that the trend has not yet abated.” She urged both buyers and sellers to consult a REALTOR® before venturing into the market. “With the average price of a single family dwelling rising by over $400 a day, you need the latest market figures that only a REALTOR® can provide.”Totally disingenuous! When the stats demonstrated a price increase in 2007 the it was extrapolated going forward. With decreasing prices it is now a great time to buy.
Calgary, June 2, 2008 – “Now is not the time to wait until the sale is over and then decide to buy; after you read a headline, the best time to buy has passed,” cautioned, CREB® President, Ed Jensen. Home inventories are high; buyers are reaping the benefits of selection and are able to negotiate the best sale price and terms. Today’s market presents buyers with great purchasing opportunities, according to information released by the Calgary Real Estate Board.
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Another factor could be that people get over the end of the year and have received their bonuses. This may be giving them some incentive to upgrade homes.
"The dominant factor is seasonality. People are getting out of hibernation mode and they want to get out and enjoy the spring weather and view show homes," he said.
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